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Llc Or S-corp? Which Is The Right Entity Form For Your Business?

Last week, we talked about what a business entity is and whether you should use one for your business, .. the short answer? Yes, if you want to grow your business and shield your personal assets from your business activities.

This week, we’ll cover what kind of entity you should use and where you should set that entity up.

You’ll recall, we are really talking about either an LLC (Limited Liability Company) or an S-Corp (Corporation filing an election for special taxation with the IRS). You can form a C-Corporation or a Limited Partnership, but if you are considering that, make sure you are talking to a lawyer who is familiar with the specifics of your specific situation and is advising you personally.

With both LLCs and S-Corps, you are taxed only once on the income of the entity , meaning that all of the income and expenses will be reported on an information return filed with the IRS, but the actual taxes are paid by the shareholders or members of the entity. This is called pass-through taxation.

You’ll recall from last week, that I said the purpose of your business entity is to limit your liability as a business owner. This is to encourage business owners to take risks that they would not take if they had unlimited personal liability.

Here’s the thing though, the shield is only intact if certain formalities are maintained, such as proper filings with the State, annual meetings of the shareholders (for corporations), and separation of all financial activities between you and the entity.

Far too often, I’ve come across business owners who used an incorporation service, a shoddy lawyer, or a CPA to incorporate their business and when I asked these business owners where their operating agreements, bylaws, annual meeting minutes and state filings were kept, they couldn’t tell me.

Why is that? Because they didn’t realize that merely filing articles of incorporation with the State does not provide liability protection.

Your corporate entity must be established correctly from the beginning with governing documents and then maintained on a yearly basis.

If you don’t do that, you may come to find out too late that your business entity doesn’t pr
ovide the protection you thought it did.

So, make sure that once you decide what kind of an entity to use, you set it up right and then maintain that entity. Now, before we talk about the type of entity, let’s talk about one additional kind of asset protection that you need to take into account.

Up until now, we’ve been talking about what I call “inside asset protection” or protection against liabilities that are incurred by the corporation, within the bubble that I described in last week’s post.

There’s another kind of protection that is often overlooked and that’s “outside asset protection”.

Outside asset protection protects your business from your potential personal liabilities.

For example, if you are in a car accident, file for personal bankruptcy, or are sued by a business partner or colleague or personally guarantee a debt. These are all personal risks that are happening outside your business entity.

In most cases, your business entity is not protected from your personal risks. That means if you are sued personally and a judgment is obtained against you, the judgment creditor could take your business entity from you in satisfaction of the judgment. But, not always.

In certain States, notably Nevada, there is something called “charging order” protection. What this means is that if you are sued personally and a judgment is entered against you, your judgment creditor cannot take away your Nevada business entity, they can merely take a charging order against it.

This means that they have a right to distributions from the entity, but cannot force those distributions in satisfaction of the judgment.

This can be a big deal if you are concerned about your potential personal liabilities.

In that case, you will want to establish either a Nevada LLC or a Nevada S-Corporation.

If you could care less about charging order protection, you can form an entity in any State of the Union, but in most cases you will want to form it in your own home State where you will be doing business because no matter what if you use a foreign corporate form, you will need to qualify to do business in your State, which means you pay state income taxes there no matter what.

Yes, there are people who will tell you that you can avoid income taxes by setting up your entity in Nevada, but that is very rare. Like if your business is totally virtual and can actually have its principal place of business in Nevada. Or, if you live there, of course. Again, if this is something you are considering, talk to your lawyer.

Ok, so LLC or S-Corporation?

Well, there are pros and cons to both and I’m going to lawyer out on you at this point and tell you that this is really a decision you should be reaching with the guidance of your own lawyer and your own CPA working together to advise you.

Your decision will have tax consequences that cannot be considered based on what you read in a general article that does not take into account the specifics of your situation. So before you incorporate any sort of entity, make sure to consult with your own personal lawyer and your CPA to make the decision about an LLC or an S-Corporation for your business structure.

By: Alexis Martin Neely

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Don’t Fall Prey To Incorporation Scams

Small business incorporation can make wonderful legal and tax sense. No argument.

But new entrepreneurs need to know that a handful of incorporation scams often ensnare small businesses. And that is truly unfortunate. Getting entangled in an incorporation scam always creates headaches, usually wastes money and may even cause you to inadvertently break the law.

Scam #1: Incorporating for Automatic Tax Deductions

The first incorporation scam? Incorporating because someone (often an off-base consultant or business coach) tells you that incorporation means you’ll be able to magically turn personal expenses like cars and travel into business deductions.

The reality sandwich is this: Incorporation does not automatically produce tax savings, and incorporation does not automatically convert personal expenses to tax deductions.

The general rule–which works for sole proprietorships, partnerships, regular corporations and S corporations–says that any ordinary and necessary business expense can be deducted. Personal expenses, in comparison, can not be deducted.

One related point should be made, too. The tax accounting rules for entities do differ. For example, sole proprietorships have some tax planning tricks that can sometimes make them the best entity choice. So do partnerships and corporations.

You definitely do want to consider the tax features of the various entity choices you have available. A regular C corporation or a Sub S corporation might be optimal for your business. Or perhaps a partnership might be best for you. You should probably carefully check out your options.

But incorporating a business for automatic extra tax deductions, well, that’s really just a scam.

Scam #2: Incorporating in Nevada to Avoid Your State’s Corporate Taxes

The second incorporation scam is incorporating in Nevada (or incorporating in some other no-corporate-taxes state) to avoid your state’s taxes.

The Nevada incorporation scam promises na&iumlve business owners that incorporating, say, a California business in Nevada will mean the business doesn’t have to pay California state corporate income and franchise taxes. The scam sometimes also promises that the business owner will avoid having to pay personal state income taxes.

Anybody who suggests that this scam works is either an idiot or a criminal… or maybe both.

Two problems exist with the Nevada incorporation scam. Problem one is that if your Nevada corporation does business in, say, California, you still have to register your corporation with California. That registration means you will have to pay any state franchise taxes.

Problem two? If a corporation earns profits in a state, that state gets to tax those profits. If a Nevada corporation in actuality operates in California, for example, all of the profits are subject to California income taxes–regardless of where the corporation was formed.

The bottomline? Make sure you don’t incorporate in some other state because you think that will let you avoid paying taxes to the state you actually live and work in. The incorporate-in-Nevada scam amounts to state tax evasion, pure and simple.

And by the way just to make this point: If you’re a Nevada business? Absolutely you should incorporate your business in Nevada. Nevada incorporation, for Nevadan businesses, is the right state.

Note: Scam #1 and #2 are actually pretty serious problems to get caught up in. Both scams, once you know the law, probably amount to criminal tax evasion.

Scam #3: Paying for Registered Agent Services in your Home State

Scam #3 amounts to only a minor if costly annoyance: paying someone to be your registered agent in your home state.

Here’s the deal with registered agents. The state where your corporation operates wants to know the name and contact information for a real person. In other words, the state wants a real human being the state can contact if it has questions and to whom the state can send correspondence. The contact is called a registered agent.

Incorporation services sometimes pitch you the idea they should be your registered agent–often charging $100 to $200 a year for the service. But you don’t need this service if you, yourself, live in the state where you’re incorporated. You can be your corporation’s registered agent.

As the registered agent, you’ll be the person to whom the state sends its letters. And your name and address will probably be available online at a state web site as the contact information for the corporation. But if you’re in business, you shouldn’t have a problem with people (customers, clients, potential customers and clients, and so forth) knowing who you are and where to find you. And you shouldn’t pay potentially thousands of dollars in registered agent fees over the life of your business.


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Seattle CPA Steve. Nelson is an adjunct tax professor at Golden Gate University and publishes the do-it-yourself limited liability company and S corporation web sites.

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